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Ideal Days

An estimate of how long a task would take with no interruptions, used as an alternative to story points.

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In 30 seconds

  • An ideal day is a full day of focused work, with no meetings or interruptions.
  • Easier to grasp than points, but easily confused with calendar days.
  • Convert to calendar time using a focus factor.

What an ideal day is

Ask: if you could work on just this, with no meetings, email or support, how many days would it take? That's an estimate in ideal days. Mike Cohn described the technique alongside story points in his work on agile estimating.

Converting to calendar time

Real days include interruptions. If a team typically gets 0.6 ideal days of work from each person per day, a 6-ideal-day item takes about 10 working days for one person. The ratio comes from tracking actual results.

Ideal days vs story points

Ideal daysStory points
Easy to explainYesTakes practice
RiskMistaken for calendar daysMistaken for hours
Depends on who does itYesLess so

Myth vs reality

Myth · An ideal day is an 8-hour day.
Reality · It's a day with no interruptions, which rarely happens.
Myth · Ideal days are more accurate than points.
Reality · Both are rough; the value is in comparing items.
Myth · Ideal days can't be used in Scrum.
Reality · Scrum doesn't prescribe a unit; teams choose.

FAQ

When are ideal days a good choice?

For new teams or stakeholders uncomfortable with abstract points.

How do I find the conversion ratio?

Compare estimated ideal days with actual calendar time over a few sprints.

Can we mix ideal days and points?

Pick one per team to keep velocity meaningful.